With the start of Real Housewives of New York right around the corner, Andy Cohen had a one-on-one with returning cast member Bethenny Frankel last night on his show Watch What Happens Live. If you missed it, it was REALLY good! I am going to let you guys know what happened, what questions Andy asked and how Bethenny responded. (FOREWARNING: I did not fully transcribe the interview, I just took down the important stuff and some of the information in here will just be summarization.) Here is what went down:
Andy Cohen: Are you divorced?
Bethenny Frankel: “No.”
Andy: Do you guys live together?
Bethenny: “I don’t know where I live. I may sleep here tonight.”
Andy: What ruined the relationship?
Bethenny: “Fame, attention and money does not bring out the best in everybody. Money is root of all evil.”
Andy: What did you learn?
Bethenny: “I learned you need to go with your gut. I learn more from mistakes than successes.” Frankel says. She explains that as a woman your biological clock starts to tick and you want certain things in life but relationships are hard and don’t work like that. “I’m so precise and matters of the heart aren’t like that,” she explains. “Cracks become craters,” she says explaining that little things that come up in relationships that feel wrong eventually build up and turn into bigger things. She says as women we try to make situations look “pretty” and confessed that she was really good at that.
Andy: Would you ever get married on TV again?
Andy: Do you believe in marriage?
Bethenny: “I will never get legally married to anyone ever again.”
Andy: Why did you come back?
Bethenny: “I don’t think people know me anymore,” She explains. She talks about how everyone read about her in the press and how everyone saw her on her talk show but doesn’t really know her. She forgot how “liberating” reality television is and she said that it feels “comfortable” for her. She also expresses that she really misses the connection between her and the viewers. She explains that she went through so much of her life with the viewers and she truly missed that bond.
Andy: At one point did you think you were too big for the show?
Bethenny: “At times I was embarrassed about the show,” she admits. “Now coming back I feel proud to do it.” She says that it feels like a different show now because it seems more honest and real.
Andy: Will Brynn (Bethenny’s daughter) be on the show?
Bethenny: “No! She is a little girl and I don’t want that for her. We are adults we can make those decisions.”
Andy: You and Ramona start off with a bang in the second episode. (They play a clip of Ramona fighting with Bethenny because both women planned brunches.)
Bethenny: “Oh, God! We’re still here! I’ve gone on this big journey and we are still here,” she explains of her relationship with Ramona. “It evolves,” she tells us. “It’s a season for transition.”
Andy: Let me ask you about the other housewives. Carole is new to you.
Bethenny: “We get along well.” (They show a clip of Bethenny and Carole out to dinner. They are laughing as Carole tells Bethenny of a dream she had about the two being lesbians together. It was a cute clip. I knew they would get a long!)
Andy: What about Heather? You both has strong personalities.
Bethenny: “She worked my nerves on the show.” (Cut to a clip of Heather confronting Bethenny several different times on the show.)
Andy: With the show about to premiere there are a lot of stories about you being difficulty to work with. Are these from the other housewives?
Andy: Do you sell stories?
Andy: Any contact with Alex or Jill from the previous seasons?
Bethenny: “I saw Jill at a party and said hi,” She tells us. She explains that it was just small talk between the ex-besties and that she has no ill will for Jill. (Wow, nice rhyme.) She also said she has not seen Alex who has since moved to Australia.
Andy: Asks about housewives from other series.
Bethenny: “I like her,” Bethenny says when asked about Nene Leakes of Real Housewives of Atlanta. “I enjoy her company. She makes me laugh. At least she is being honest, this is who she really is,” she says of the famous housewife.
Bethenny: “It’s been contentious from afar,” Bethenny says of her relationship with Teresa Giudice of Real Housewives of New Jersey. “She would talk about me and it became really cowardly. It was not a face-to-face battle because I don’t know her. She’s a mother and to be away from your kids, I can’t think of something worse. It always amazes me the type of person who goes on a reality television with skeletons in the closet.”
Andy: Dating anyone?
Bethenny: “I’m not dating anyone now.”
Andy: As Cher says, “Do you believe in life after love?”
Bethenny: “I do believe in life after love.”
The show starts with Kenya and Cynthia arriving at Claudia’s beautiful Atlanta apartment. The last time Kenya was there the apartment was bare. Claudia has put the entire place together and it is absolutely beautiful. She has the most gorgeous view of the city. The girls sit down on the couch to talk about Porsha’s welcome party. Claudia tells the girls that she went to support Porsha since they will both be working for Rickey Smiley. Claudia starts to cry and the girls ask her what is wrong. She shares with us all that people do not think she has feelings because she puts on such a tough front but she confesses that it is just a disguise to hide her emotions. She says that it feels like she is in “high school” because of the way Porsha is acting. She talks about trying to congratulate Porsha and make up with her. Porsha was not interested in making things civil.
Across town, Kandi and Todd are packing for their trip to Los Angeles. We find out that Todd has booked Kandi a role on a movie so they are going out to film her part. The job will last for only a day but Todd lets Kandi know that he will be staying in LA for the full week. Kandi gets upset and asks why he will not be coming home with her. He tells Kandi that he wants to stay to party.
At 10:00PM the night before Apollo is to report to a Kentucky prison, Peter pulls up to the home Apollo shares with Phaedra in a white Mercedes to pick Apollo up. Apollo is not right at this point. He gets in the car and tells Peter that Phaedra is having an affair with an African man name ‘Chocolate’. Apollo says that Phaedra’s phone went off when she was out of the room. Apollo decided to check it and saw a text from a man named Chocolate. In the phone he finds a chain of texts between the two. In the messages there was a selfie Phaedra took, texts that said, “I love you”, and a text that said, “A week from now I’ll be off the plantation” — implying that once Apollo was in jail, Phaedra would be free. Apollo has saved all the texts and is now reading them to Peter. (The entire time Peter is driving and leaning over to see the texts in Apollo’s phone. I was seriously concerned for both of their lives because Peter was so distracted I thought they were going to get into an accident.) Apollo tells Peter he went berserk about it and told Phaedra, “People kill people” over these kind of situations. Peter is very concerned over all of this.
Peter gets home, “CB!” He yells as he walks through the front door. Cynthia comes down the stairs to see what is going on. Peter tells Cynthia about the affair that Phaedra is having with Mr. Chocolate. He tells her about Apollo and how he went nuts. (Peter tells the story to Cynthia with a giant smirk on his face, almost like he is going to start laughing. I cannot tell if this is a completely fabricated story or if Peter just loves the name Mr. Chocolate.)
In the meantime, Kenya is writing and casting for a pilot about her life. We see her writing lines and going through auditions. Cynthia comes in to audition for a part and did a very good job! She was dressed up in a Jamaican outfit with crazy makeup on. She was hilarious and knew the lines very well. She actually did a really good job and they loved her. The other notable person who showed up to audition was D.Woods, who was auditioning for the part of Robin, Kenya’s older sister. D.Woods had a role in Kandi’s play and Kenya thought she was amazing. (If you are a reality TV super fan like myself, you will remember D.Woods from MTV’s Making the Band. She was a member of Danity Kane!) Kenya really likes D.Woods but wonders if she will be believable as Kenya’s older sister since she is younger.
Claudia goes to talk to her boss, Rickey Smiley, about the radio show she is co-hosting with him. She wants to get some tips on how to do better so she can progress in her career. (If you have not heard the Rickey Smiley Morning Show, listen to it. I do every morning and it is HILARIOUS. Rickey Smiley’s voice is amazing and he is SO FUNNY. Claudia is wonderful on the show too!) Rickey asks Claudia about Porsha in which Claudia explains that she had tried to make up with Porsha but that it did not go so well. Rickey says that Porsha is in the building so he is going to go get her and fix things. Claudia is not thrilled about this. Rickey comes back with Porsha and conducts a small therapy session. Porsha (who I used to love) is acting totally immature like she has been. Rickey gets everything to a somewhat civil point and then makes the girls stand with him, hold hands and pray. Claudia (and myself) found this to be really weird!
Kandi is returning home from LA. Her friend is over and is asking how everything went. Kandi tells her about a fight she has with Todd, she says Todd is staying in LA for the week. She wonders if Todd has been cheating because they don’t sleep together as often as she would like. (All of this is total news to me! I did not see this coming.) Kandi admits that the two need to go to therapy together.
Back at Phaedra’s, she and her assistant are walking into the home for the first time since she has left with her kids to stay at a resort to be away from a threatening Apollo. Phaedra surveys the home making sure nothing is broken or torn down. The doorbell rings and we find that Phaedra is hiring people to come change all the locks on the house and the garage door opener. While in the garage talking with one of the men she hired she sees Apollo pull up in his white BMW. Apollo looks like a crazy man. He walks in the house and is yelling. Phaedra is confused because Apollo was talking with the kids earlier that day on his way to Kentucky to report to jail. He was supposed to be in jail already, or so Phaedra thought. (I think Apollo told Phaedra he was leaving for prison earlier than he had to so he could come home and catch her with Chocolate. That is just my theory.) Apollo lets us know that he doesn’t have to report for another 72 hours. He is yelling about the locks changing, he tells Phaedra to make sure that his clothes from the laundry are put away. Phaedra sits in the garage with her assistant somewhat ignoring his craziness. He tries to get a rise out of her saying something about her boyfriends clothes. Phaedra doesn’t really pay attention to it and eventually calls Apollo’s friend ‘Bun’ and asks him to come get Apollo. Bun comes and gets Apollo out of the house. Minutes later Apollo comes back to the house, pulling into the driveway like a mad man. He comes into the house and picks up a drill. He storms into the garage with drill in hand and walks straight up to Phaedra. She tells him to get away from her with the drill. He puts it down and gets close to her. He whispers in her ear, “Don’t call the cops.” (I was honestly scared for Phaedra at this point. He was really losing it. I am also surprised how calm her assistant stayed during the entire thing. The two of them, Phaedra and her assistant, looked hilarious standing next to each other in the garage watching Apollo both with their arms crossed, shaking their heads.)
Next time on the Real Housewives of Atlanta — Kandi, concerned about her relationship with Todd, asks him if he did it all over again, would he marry her. We don’t yet hear his answer but we do see Kandi crying. The girls all find out about Phaedra’s affair. While out to dinner, Kenya calls out Phaedra about the affair with an African guy named ‘Chocolate’. You then see Phaedra get up and start to swing her purse at Kenya as all the girls are yelling, “No!” (Looks like things are finally going down on RHOA.)
Until next time…
The girls get back from Puerto Rico and we start the episode watching Nene and Cynthia telling their husbands about the trip. Nene gets in her black, Maserati with Greg and dishes about her interaction with new housewife, Claudia Jordan. In the meantime, Cynthia – who is wearing the most ridiculous, blue cowboy hat, see below – is in her kitchen filling in Peter (husband) and Malorie (sister) on Puerto Rico and her relationship with Nene. Nothing new here, Nene and Cynthia are still not friends. Cynthia and Malorie look for the ‘friendship contract’ that she signed with Nene years ago. Cynthia finds it, crumples it up, runs to the kitchen and lights it on fire in the sink.
Kandi and Todd have been attempting to get pregnant but have been having some trouble so they go to see Married to Medicine’s Dr. Jackie. Kandi, 38, has been off of birth control for over a year and is wondering if Todd could be the problem. They find out that Todd is not the problem but that they should start living a little more healthily if they want to conceive.
Cynthia’s husband, Peter, is having a grand opening party for his new bar and lounge, Sports One. Cynthia calls the girls to see who wants to make the three hour drive to attend. At this point in the show we find out Claudia is in, so Cynthia calls Kenya to see if she would like to join. “This is Twirl,” Kenya answers the phone. (Yes, Twirl! Why would she not answer the phone like that?) Kenya says she wants to attend but she hates driving. Cynthia says they will each drive an hour so Kenya agrees to go but says that she needs to be put up in a five star hotel and needs full hair, makeup and wardrobe. Twirl is quite the diva.
As it turns out, Claudia drives the entire way as Twirl is in the back seat acting like a 14 year old girl. She hangs up Cynthia’s phone while she is talking to Phaedra (see below), she moons guys out the window on a highway and while pulling into a gas station she makes the girls turn on her song, ‘Gone with the Wind Fabulous’ and proceeds to sing it loudly while hanging out of the sunroof waiving her arms. (Gosh, she is great!)
Phaedra, on the other hand, is not having the best episode as we see her talking to her mother about soon to be ex-husband, Apollo and his report to jail date. We later see Apollo alone with sons Ayden and Dylan at a frozen yogurt shop. He sits down at a table with them and tries to explain to them that he is going away for a long time.
He makes a good attempt at trying to explain this by asking the kids what happens to them when they get in trouble. Then asking what would happen to ‘mommy or daddy’ when they get in trouble. He asks the kids how they feel when he is away from the home. Ayden, who seems overly intelligent for his age, responds “bad”. This part of the show is really sad. It is clearly Apollo’s fault that he is going to prison for eight years but it is so sad for his family. It has ruined his relationship with Phaedra and it is going to hurt the boys. In this episode you really see how much joy Apollo brings his kids. Both kids are so happy to be with him, Ayden very talkative with him, clearly expressing his love for his father and Dylan, barely old enough to speak, jumping up and down, looking at Apollo with a smile on his face saying, “Dada, Dada.”
The real excitement of this episode comes when Cynthia, Kenya and Claudia finally make it to Peter’s opening of Sports One. We come to find out that Kordell Stewart, former NFL player and Porsha’s ex-husband, is Peter’s business partner. The girls are all excited to see Kordell. Claudia says she has known Kordell for a while and sits down next to him to chat. Everyone makes a huge deal about it and Peter attempts to play matchmaker. He keeps saying, “She’s so cute,” of Claudia and continues to say how good they look together. Claudia explains that she works with Porsha everyday so she would never do that, even though they are not friends. She does flirt with Kordell, hanging out alone with him, giving him her number, telling him not to call her late at night and taking a selfie with him.
I definitely saw it all as flirting but Monday morning on the Rickey Smiley Morning Show she claimed that her and Kordell are friends and have been for 15 years. Peter was a guest on the show and claimed he was not trying to hook them up, even though it seemed like it. He said if you thought he was trying to hook the pair up then, “You must have not been watching the show.” No Peter, we were watching and you were definitely playing matchmaker.